Jesse brings together everything discussed on the Friday livestream, and Mans’ Saturday chat, in one easy-to-reference sheet!
The Core 4
Kyler Murray, Michael Thomas, Marquise Brown, Kelce
Brees, Ronald Jones, Michael Thomas, Jonnu (Olsen same as Jonnu if you have the extra $100)
Tommy’s Core 1-17
McCaffrey, Everett, Michael Thomas, Lamar Jackson
Mans’ Guarantee of the Week
Marquise Brown TD
Technical difficulties on Friday night caused the first portion of the livestream to be lost. Therefore, this summary will only cover the part that was saved. Apologies.
Montgomery can be paired with McCaffrey or Barkley and be okay, but it’s scary to pair him with anyone else. Too risky.
Singletary < Jones on DK.
Singletary > Jones on FD.
Like Samuels a LOT, has very safe floor on both sites and does have some upside because of the TD dual threat (rushing and passing).
Interested in how NYG will fare against zone running of NYJ/Bell. Bell not really on my radar because I don’t trust the NYJ offense, overall.
I just don’t fuck with MIA. I see all of the things Tommy is saying about Ballage, I just can’t trust anything in MIA.
Montgomery > Powell.
Great GPP play is Damien Williams in KC.
Singletary will be popular. Prefer on DK.
I’m telling you to play Ballage. Everyone in the industry will hate it and will flame me for it, but I don’t care. There simply aren’t any other options in MIA and he WILL get touches. Can’t see him not getting 20 touches, so I think he’s every bit as good a play as a random min-priced WR who could end up with a 0. He WILL be on one of my 3 teams.
Like the Damien Williams GPP play a LOT.
Michael Thomas is the lock of the week, possibly the lock of the season. Just play him.
Kupp will be underowned.
Godwin is my #2 guy behind Thomas, but he’s far behind. Prefer Godwin > Evans.
Not that high on Hill, but I get it. He’s always an acceptable play.
Marquise Brown is the mid- to low-tier guy I like the most.
Prefer Marquise Brown > AJ Brown. Ted Schuster likes AJ Brown a lot, though, and is trying to get me into him.
All NYJ WR are in play, and I like Anderson, but Demaryius Thomas might be my favorite. Anyone up against DeAndre Baker (NYG #2 CB) is in play, Baker is the worst CB in the league.
Kirk is my favorite ARI WR.
Will endorse anyone up against PJ Williams, and this week that is Gage, so totally fine with that play.
Agree on Michael Thomas completely. Just no reason to fade. The industry is getting “sharper”, and guys I keep projecting as 60-70% owned are ending up only 20-30%. If that holds true, and Thomas actually ends up only 30% owned, it’s INSANE to fade him. Lock button.
Kupp will be underowned, which is crazy since Cooks is OUT. Love Kupp.
Prefer AJ Brown > Marquise Brown.
Also like the NYJ guys, prefer Anderson.
I don’t play Fitzgerald after Week 8 (he has consistently faded in the second half), so I love Kirk.
My punt/dumpster dive guys are Gage and Hurns.
MIA WR are guys you want to keep an eye on the rest of the year. There are tons of targets up for grabs there.
Just not interested in the Ebron/Doyle timeshare. Ebron is the “squeaky wheel”, so I guess he’s the better play, but I won’t have either of them.
Not on Ellison.
It’s really just Hooper, Kelce.
Kelce is my guy.
Interested in McDonald the rest of the way.
TE slate breaker: Gerald Everett.
CAR has a great price. They’re my favorite, overall.
Obviously BAL is the choice if price doesn’t matter. Will gladly take the huge discount for CAR.
CHI is good.
PIT is a good DEF and Goff is capable of turning the ball over. Good DK price.
CAR/BAL obviously the best choices.
Like/interested in ARI on DK because of the pick-6 upside v Winston.
TEN is okay at their DK price.
So many mid- to top-tier guys we LOVE (Thomas, McCaffrey, Kupp, etc.) that it makes plays like Ballage that much more appealing. You’re just going to have to find min-priced guys you can play if you want to get 2-3 of the guys you love into LUs together.
It’s an old school Tommy G week. I’m throwing darts on guys like Ballage, Gage, Hurns, etc., and I’m going to either lose every dollar I have in play, or I’m going to slay the world.
Mans’ Saturday Night Chat
‘I would go naked on Trubisky….that sounds weird but not surprising I am sure LOL
‘ONLY PLAY TRUBISKY IF YOU HAVE AT LEAST 10 LINEUPS. ANYTHING LESS PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE FADE HIM
‘Murray on FD, Brees on DK because of yardage bonuses
‘Rodgers GPP is very good.
‘I can’t trust Tannehill no
‘Not on Rodgers cause I do see Panthers pass rush as able to cause a problem like last week. Other 4 QBs are in back and forth high scoring contests
‘I think Mahomes will be less owned than Murray
‘Josh Allen is just not a GPP option ever. His upside is significantly limited
‘Tampa used to give up massive yards to rushing QBs but that might stop this year. Murray can run against them I believe though. The RPO he will need to keep and attack the edges and will have success
‘I do like Matty Ice…..might have to wait until 4th quarter for production though
‘Nah I don’t like Goff.
‘No way would I use Russell Wilson in core 4 in the all week slate. Way too difficult matchup
‘I needed some salary that is why I moved down from Brees to Kyler on FD
‘What I have noticed for me personally this year is if I miss on QB, I miss cashing. So…am really focused in on who won’t fuck me there
‘yeah if you have the $ to move up to Brees do it
‘Kyler naked is the ONLY way to go IMO
‘No love for Daniel Jones
‘Best GPP play is probably Saquon. NOBODY playing him this week
‘Saquon is good for cash yes. I am very surprised how many are just leaving him
‘Kamara is always solid but this week is a bit tougher on RBs and Lat Murray supposedly is going to get a mainstream role. For me, I am using Thomas 100% so easy fade
‘Fading CMC and Saquon….very dangerous. If you went all high end WR’s it is doable but I wouldn’t love it
‘Using CMC is a decision that all of YOU have to make for yourself. I’ll just say YES that you should use him
‘There is no safely fading CMC no
‘Ted wants to use CMC….I think Saquon + $2000 is just as good
‘Singletary > Montgomery if not for price
‘Ronald Jones for 4300 on DK is hard to fade
‘Don’t touch Kareem Hunt
‘Samuels > Singletary
‘CMC can be fit on both sites but its obviously not easy
‘Damien Williams is sharp…..GPP play for sure
‘No love for Hunt at all no
‘Stafford would play if a grenade went off in his skull
‘Ronald Jones is scary…I totally agree. Only thing we can lean on there is plenty of scoring opportunities
‘Play Hunt all you like….but don’t come at me about it if it misses.
‘No on Mixon
‘I do like Nick Chubb in gPP yes. Prefer Saquon though just cause there is not concern there at all and ownership will be similar
‘Game script better for Gus Edwards….they aren’t giving Ingram more than 18 carries
‘Problem with Ingram is limited to 18 touches a game and very few receptions. He is SO TD dependent
‘No on Ballage
‘Samuels is good yes
‘You know…Edmunds really isn’t bad. Won’t be in my lineups because I am a scaredy cat.
‘Not sure what is going on with David Johnson
‘Samuels will get receptions which are auto points. That is why I prefer him over Henry (and price)
‘Yeah I like Mack a great deal. Priced right for not catching many passes
‘Gurley will be the lead guy but still not a great play
‘Samuels > Gurley yes
‘Ingram > Coleman
‘Tevin Coleman is solid sure
‘Edmunds > Hunt
‘I would rather start myself than Kareem Hunt
‘Samuels > Coleman
‘There is something about Mostert that still bothers me yes
‘@Jsobel I am torn between CMC and Barkley. Really just straight up torn
‘Yes @Cesar…I will have either CMC or Saquon
‘Mack > Samuels if salary isn’t a problem yes
‘Marquise Brown on FD is better. I think I am fading on DK though
‘I like Ridley too
‘I like Marquise Brown > Ridley on FD…..on dK I prefer Ridley
‘Hollywood > Ridley…..better matchup, more centralized target share, bigger YAC opportunity
‘@MillerTime608 That is why I have Marquise Brown in there too
‘Fading Godwin sure. But have to have Thomas
‘MUST START MICHAEL THOMAS
‘Josh Reynolds is OK for price relief but don’t love it
‘Demaryius Thomas > Allen Hurns if Thomas plays which I think he will
‘Russell Gage isn’t terrible. Problem is he hasn’t played with Matt Ryan. That bothers me
‘Crowder >>>> Humphries but NOT both
‘No on Godwi and Evans together. Bad cash game strategy there. If tournament….sure
‘Can’t trust either Landry or Parker
‘LOVE Golden Tate honestly…..grades out well but man do I love him
‘Rams haven’t been feeding all 3 WRs at all this year guys. So that is a major problem with Reynolds
‘Tate is cash worthy your es
‘No on Willie Snead. Not enough volume or upside
‘Kupp is going way under owned I have a feeling
‘AJ Brown is better than I thought. I personally don’t love it but he’s the only game in town
‘Godwin > Tyreek…..but Both are just fantastic
‘Pascal is solid cash play for sure
‘There was some late game chemistry with Rudolph and James Washington….so nervous about Diontae Johnson
‘Not worried about splits for Kupp no
‘Ridley tore up the Saints last year
‘Kirk NEEDS to get in the end zone one of these days
‘No other favorites at WR no. All comes down to price. Godwin would be next best overall. Tate right there too
‘LOL Don’t you DARE bring up the name Mike Williams around me!!!
‘Yeah on Stefon Diggs
‘What up, Rez! Don’t forget….my job here is to be the SAFE one. Adams VERY intriguing but not a safe play
‘Hollywood is safer than people realize yes. Read the article….it is explained
‘Lockett > Beckham
‘Tyreek Hill? He’s going to go 8-6-91-1
‘I think Davante Adams could go off…..just less of a chance than say Tyreek. If I was a multi lineup guy, I’d have fair share of Adams but I likely won’t
‘TD Lock = Marquise Brown
‘Favorite cheap WR besides Hollywood is Calvin Ridley and/or Christian Kirk
‘Cheaper than Ridley ad Kirk….that is rough waters. DeMaryius if he plays I guess
‘@Dirt Like Robby Anderson….don’t think there is enough from Darnold though. Its not awful though
‘Favorite WR under 4K….guess Russell Gage
‘I am not into Everett no
‘Gesicki is good on DK sure….will get several catches at least. Can pay off
‘DK best spot to pay down on is TE I agree. I am using Kelce on FD but likely paying down on DK
‘Jonnu is safer than Olsen and Howard yeah..
‘I think Ebron will have a good game
‘I don’t know what to do with Herndon so would say no
‘Jonnu > Witten
‘OJ Howard is a RISKY play…..and its a gut call so don’t put all your chips on it
‘Jonnu > Gesicki > OJ
‘Yeah OJ Howard will play some in slot. Here is the thing……Arizona Slot CB Tramaine Brock is OUT this week. So…..real problems for them
‘I hate Jonnu for last week…lol…but Davis being out helps
‘Andrews is pretty risky IMO….Technically he grades out but I personally don’t like it
‘Ebron is fine……not very safe but think he does get in the box this week
‘Cheap TE = Jonnu….lowest possible would be OJ Howard for me
‘Not a BIG mistake but a mistake I think to fade Kelce or Hooper
‘No I am out on Everett
‘Rams DST…its OK but don’t love it
‘Bears DST is sneaky too
‘Like the Steelers, Panthers for cheap
‘Jets & Giants DST are interesting…..but also so bad
‘Bears DST is not biased……..Bears -2.5 bet…..might have some goggles on with that one
‘Ravens in great spot for sure….but can we afford them? That is a lot to sacrifice in hopes of getting a pick 6
‘The only Core-4 change that might happen is on DK with the DST…..We may free up some more $ and move up from CAR
‘QB + WR is great when it hits…but I only do that in high volume offenses or highly concentrated target shares
‘I wouldn’t fade Michael Thomas….so him & CMC is good. Not CMC + Barkley though
‘You “can” fit CMC & Saquon but would have to fade Michael Thomas. Thomas is my #1 lock button guy no matter what
‘Ridley and Marquise Brown……..sure IF you have CMC/Saquon and Thomas
‘Saving $$ on Marquise Brown and DST basically
‘@PolkHigh Can’t do BOTH Saquon and Tate
‘Tate & CMC is a great combo, Saquon & Godwin though….better
‘That is the thing. If you use CMC…..you’re next best WR has to be Tate or lower. If you drop down to Saquon, you get Godwin/Tyreek if you want
‘OJ Howard > Hunt yeah ,ol
‘Definitely don’t face CMC…you CAN….but only if you have like Thomas and Barkley
‘@Bonafyde So…my “model” is a group of about 30-50 stats/metrics dedicated to each position. There is an automatic weighting for each category which them give me a final number (scale of 100). Anything above 80 is cash worthy. Anything below is not
‘I NEVER MME ever., Not in cash or GPP or ever. I believe in my best lineups so I do 1-2 per week. SOMETIMES I will roll out 3-4 GPP lineups but that is like 2-3 times per season
‘Powersurge I’d say 90% of the time I use Core-4 as my GPP lineup too.
‘Yeah I am at about $900 in cash this week. Ramping up after last week
‘I don’t do site specific guarantees…lol. My guarantees are all FOOTBALL related, not DFS
‘@Bonafyde650 I run 1,000 GAME simulations each week. These just run and give me game by game and more importantly consensus stats.
‘Bet the Seahawks on MNF with the points
‘I do NOT do multiple cash lineups. IMO that is the best way to make sure you lose money
‘125 is my FD target score each week yes
‘its 9:45 for me….don’t forget I still have a show plan for SXM tomorrow, bets to put in, sims to go over, updates to write, rankings to adjust and lineups to put in
‘MY OPINION: DFS will kick you in the nuts. 95% of DFS players will take that kick in the nuts and think they need to change who they are as human beings. So it winds up everybody chasing the SAME THINGS all of the time. The advantage IMO is sticking to your plan
‘REMEMBER…the point of Core 4 is to build the foundation of a lineup. Give you the steady players to build around and allow you to make the choices to put you over. It’s not supposed to do 75% of the word
‘@JMW Balanced on FD I think with one sort of punt….Stars and scrubs on DK it seems
‘@MillerTime My bankroll is fluid since Ted and I technically share it. We cash out each month as a treat so try to keep enough in there that we don’t ever feel panicked. We started with $10K….we usually have about $1500 minimum in play per week….most weeks has been more…last week was less
‘We haven’t played a single qualifier all year. I won’t even go to them if I did qualify so probably not
‘Best Bet: Ravens -10
‘No personal loans, sorry
‘BTW Talladega Nights is on Comedy Central
‘My wife is ALWAYS pissed….we left a party tonight to do this hahaha
‘I fucking HATE HGTV
‘Dude…YES!! Everybody pays millions for ripping their home apart. Also…why the FUCK are we WATCHING people LOOK FOR A HOUSE?!?!??!!
‘Hallmark YES!! I am a sucker for Christmas guys……hate to admit it
‘Kareem Hunt >>>>> HGTV
‘”I’m pauline the penis”
‘OMG! I just had a fuckign HOUR conversation about Insta-Pots tonight!
‘I don’t sleep much during NFL season
‘We talked about Air Fryer’s too!!!!!!!!!! WOWOWOWOWO
‘We do have an air fryer yes
‘Honestly…..I really don’t know what I get paid for anymore. My job description is all over the map….lol
‘Haven’t seen Joker no. Tommy was going to see it tonight he said
‘HGTV is to blame for 75% of divorce in the world
‘LIFE LESSON: Eat whatever you want. it all turns into shit and nothing is EVER going to save your life. We are all going to die and nothing we eat will help.
‘KALE IS HORRIBLE
‘Should I do my own uncensored Podcast?
‘@Ruch I’d rather live 60 years being happy than 75 eating Kale LOL
‘I am from the south side man…I can tell when somebody is about to go off….fists, guns, language LOL
‘John and I are having a blast doing that podcast together on FG…..much better than either of us though it would be
‘I am 100% in for XFL yes…..lol
‘My wife is asleep….I told her we’d go into hot tub tonight but she didn’t make it
‘Tommy G is the richest near homeless person ever
‘If you bring down anything over $10K I will give you a segment on SXM if you want it